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Rakan Back to being a hatchling xD
Posts : 827 Join date : 2010-10-30 Age : 34 Location : Looking for more Yuri
| Subject: Chapter 29 DRAMA Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:15 pm | |
| some assholes uploaded it all our work on that chapter was for nothing we had it finished too |
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Sadofu Dragon Hatchling!
Posts : 299 Join date : 2010-11-09 Age : 30 Location : Inside your mum's cunt
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:21 pm | |
| some Sentōsha crap uploaded it, what does that exactly mean for you guys, what if he uploads chap 30 before you? |
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Rakan Back to being a hatchling xD
Posts : 827 Join date : 2010-10-30 Age : 34 Location : Looking for more Yuri
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:22 pm | |
| we have all the way upto chapter 32 translated i just think its kinda fucked up they didnt contact us first |
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Frozen Aquarium You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 977 Join date : 2010-10-28 Age : 34 Location : chasing a rolling 500円
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:30 pm | |
| damn that i'm going to translate the whole volume 5 like a madman now..... |
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ChaosMaster You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 933 Join date : 2010-10-28 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:31 pm | |
| Meh, it's true that it's dissapointing that they didn't contact us. But if they promise to keep the releases constant, then there's really no reason not to give it to them. I mean, the reason we started was "as fans for fans" that is because no one would pic up the manga over a long period of time. So if you could, please have someone contact them and see what their response is. |
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ChaosMaster You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 933 Join date : 2010-10-28 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:37 pm | |
| Ok I just sent the guy an email. lets see what his response is. |
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:47 am | |
| Lol they updated it a DAY after we uploaded chapter 28 a DAY, they coulda just asked us, it's not like we'd say no, but why work on a project someone else is doing? there are HUNDREDS of manga out there that need to be translated :/ What a waste of time... |
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Frozen Aquarium You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 977 Join date : 2010-10-28 Age : 34 Location : chasing a rolling 500円
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:59 am | |
| can't mangafox do something about that? i mean aren't we the only one allowed to upload that? on the credits page we said that we would release the chapter 29 within the week, it just feels like they're fucking with us... (ugh the yakuza in me is awakening)
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:05 am | |
| nah we can only upload our own releases and by 29 we meant 30 |
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Frozen Aquarium You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 977 Join date : 2010-10-28 Age : 34 Location : chasing a rolling 500円
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:09 am | |
| i see, i stand corrected... |
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:19 am | |
| we'll release our version of 29 later :/ |
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Frozen Aquarium You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 977 Join date : 2010-10-28 Age : 34 Location : chasing a rolling 500円
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:20 am | |
| aright.. im going home now be back in an hour or two so any corrections and questions regarding the chapter 29 and others will be enterntained later or have Tran Linh check it..
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:21 am | |
| Might as well. Then finish 31. Then we can do a volume batch for this one. |
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Frozen Aquarium You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 977 Join date : 2010-10-28 Age : 34 Location : chasing a rolling 500円
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:23 am | |
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:24 am | |
| Ah well its like 10 pages right? |
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Frozen Aquarium You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 977 Join date : 2010-10-28 Age : 34 Location : chasing a rolling 500円
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:28 am | |
| 6 pages to be exact.. |
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lx26 well, at least it's better than meh
Posts : 37 Join date : 2010-11-02
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:29 am | |
| Thats scanlating for ya, theres always gonna be some asshole stealing your work and claiming its theirs. I appreciate the effort guys since nobody before you guys are doing it, thank you!! |
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:31 am | |
| Nah not stealing per ce more like they beat us to the punch.
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Frozen Aquarium You Can (Not) Escape
Posts : 977 Join date : 2010-10-28 Age : 34 Location : chasing a rolling 500円
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:38 am | |
| thanks for the word of support and appreciation, we'll continue to bring joy to all jap manga fans! |
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lx26 well, at least it's better than meh
Posts : 37 Join date : 2010-11-02
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:19 am | |
| - demonspawn wrote:
- Nah not stealing per ce more like they beat us to the punch.
Ah I see my bad |
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Tran Linh Trollin' the forums since 1981
Posts : 4109 Join date : 2010-09-25 Age : 37 Location : in a maid cafe in Akiba? or behind you? who knows :O
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:14 pm | |
| The translation was stolen from us XscansX, it's true. I'm starting to hate French. They will pay for this, for their thieving on frozenaquarium's translation. I've kicked out all those fuckers. They might have stolen translation up to chapter 33 or something. But THIS is a enough! I'm getting furious. Those french, I'll remember this. And, Jenosuka or Unforgiven, I don't know who the fuck are you on that chapter 29 credit page. Remember that even if you've taken the translation of our group, up to chapter 33 or (for the fuck that I care), without a translator, you will again stall the manga. So for your fucking information, I kicked both of you out, no more of your motherfuckers in our group. I curse the day I stupidly believed and let you in the group since I sympathized with your damn group that your group's translator disappeared. Even I've treated you with all respect and things. Now that's what I get? Thanks asshole. Looking forward to the credit page next chapter ok? Fucker. |
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:09 pm | |
| - lx26 wrote:
- demonspawn wrote:
- Nah not stealing per ce more like they beat us to the punch.
Ah I see my bad Ah apparently stealing. Damn, translation looks like it's ours -.-' But not the pages! (^-^)b Rakan's and my work wasn't.Was beating to the punch lolz
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Tran Linh Trollin' the forums since 1981
Posts : 4109 Join date : 2010-09-25 Age : 37 Location : in a maid cafe in Akiba? or behind you? who knows :O
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:01 pm | |
| well, Mangafox Quality controller already locked that chapter, and they banned that sucker group from existence. well, You can rest at easy now dude |
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demonspawn The spamming demon from hell
Posts : 1465 Join date : 2010-10-04 Age : 33 Location : In your basement eating your cookies :D
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:04 pm | |
| Damn, now there's a hole in the releases D:> that's never good |
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ccp well, at least it's better than meh
Posts : 16 Join date : 2010-11-19
| Subject: Re: Chapter 29 DRAMA Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| Hello. I am trying very hard to stay civil right now because I happen to be very pissed off. Please excuse in advance my impoliteness. I am ccp from Sentōsha. I am not going to get into how Sentōsha was created and since when, nor on the fact that we've been releasing GTO Shonan 14Days long before you did - because I've already explained that to one of your members in an email and I suspect he's already let you in on the subject. No, I am here solely to address your claim that we apparently "stole" you guys' translation, which was apparently an excuse to ban us from mangafox. Here are the facts: we released our version of chapter 29 a day before you released your version of chapter 29. Now please tell me, how the hell could we have stolen your translation before we even knew it existed? I'm assuming that either you think that we somehow managed to hack your translator's computer a week before we released our chapter (because a week is the time it took for us to edit it); either we have some kind of psychic powers that allowed us to foresee what your translator was going to write. None of these options are very plausible, you'll agree with me. So tell us, what made you assume that we could have stolen your translation? Do you have proof other than the "resemblances" you apparently picked up between our translations? Because that can be explained simply by the fact that we translated the same fucking chapter. I saw that Tran Linh's other reasons for banning us was the fact that my email address ends in .fr and some other bullshit about me being French and involved with a French group, which is simply ridiculous. Seriously, I am so appalled I'm barely able to make sense of the situation here. If you're not able to explain why you think we "stole" your translation before it was even made, which I don't think you will be considering that it's physically impossible, I expect excuses and our un-banning from mangafox. I'm still including the email that I answered to your member who contacted me yesterday, just in case he hasn't forwarded it: - Spoiler:
- Quote :
- From: smith cash
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:38 AM To: comecomeparadise@hotmail.fr Subject: GTO Shonan.
Hi, I'm actually ChaosMaster from XSCANSX. I noticed you've released chapter 29 of GTO, ahead of us. We don't mind you picking up GTO Shonan, after all we XSCANSX were created because no one else would pick it up. However, it would have been nice if you could have informed us before hand (it's a general rule of thumb to ask the previous group if they have officially dropped the Manga, even if they obviously have), as we've translated and cleaned up to chapters 32, with chapter 29 also done, but held back because we wanted to see the traffic difference on MangaFox on a Thurs and a Sat. Any how, We were wondering if you and your group are going to continue GTO and be releasing on a regular basis. Depending on your answer, we'll decide what to do from then, as we've taken up a fair few new projects anyway.
On Behalf of XscansX, ChaosMaster My answer: - Quote :
- Hi,
Thank you for your email. Sentōsha has been realeasing chapters of Shonan 14Days since chapter 17, and our members have been working on scanlating it at varying degrees since the series started. However, we were forced to take a pause in releasing after chapter 23 due to private reasons. During that time, translations were still made and the chapters were still being worked on, but there were indeed no releases. Coincidentally, we had just stirred back into activity and were about to release a second version of chapter 24 when XSCANSX joined in. We now understand that our hiatus was probably misinterpreted as us dropping the project, and we'd like to apologize for that. We didn't know that you had your own version of chapter 29 ready, and we're sorry if you feel your time and effort has been wasted. Do feel free to release your version if you want to. What you must understand now is that we at Sentōsha are all very big fans of Fujisawa, and have been for years. The effort we put into our releases and the very fact that we are making scans of his series stem from the respect we owe him. All of our members have a scanlating/fansubbing history stretching over several years that involves at least one of his works. We are dedicated to making Fujisawa's works known to the community, and in the best quality we can afford. For my part, I've been a scanlator for 3 years and have been scanlating Shonan 14Days in French for more than a year. We also have a translator whose work is done seriously and consistently, and who actually makes a living as a professional translator, aside from working on GTO as a personal hobby. In other words not only are we dedicated, we also have translations that are done to a professional standard as well as raws up until quite far ahead. It would be a pity (not to mention a waste of time and effort) to not use either. This means yes, expect us to continue releasing. Note that we're not aiming for popularity or ranks; just to spread the love and respect we have for Fujisawa. I'm open to any other questions you may have. Regards - ccp I'm sure you can see we have been nothing but civil throughout this whole ordeal, and you just went and banned us from an online reader based on an unfounded suspicion. Seriously, never in my 3 years' worth of scanlating have I experienced such a thing. I'm appalled.
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