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PostSubject: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:38 am

so gave it a go for the first time about 15 mins ago

used a bleach raw that was downloaded a few days ago

I have no clue if i got anywhere close to what the levels should be they just looked nice and clear so I went with it

and the tutorial i was following stated that text outside of the bubbles were the typesetters job

so i didn't mess with them

and here's attempt number 1 I'll do another real fast

EDIT: I'll fix it real fast but just realized the black isn't suppose to look like that will burn it in a few

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:46 am

Good job for a first attempt, but the filter you used on it distorted the image and made it look weird overall.
Good job on leveling the whites. For the blacks, instead of a filter you should use the burn tool to darken it.

Also in regards to the text. Usually we cleaners(editors) redraw that. In this case it's mostly repatterning. Use either the clone tool or zoom in until you can see what makes up the pattern, then copy and paste sections of the pattern over where the text is. (For people starting out I'd say use the clone tool)

And on the blacks and white areas just brush over where the text is. Then you can use the pentool to redraw lines.

If none of this made sense feel free to wait for someone else to respond lol.

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:56 am

heres another go an yeah im fixing the first one i thought the blacks looked messed up

and about it being distorted, you possibly mean the grays because I think i messed them up not quite sure

(I dont read Bleach so I odn't know how it normally looks



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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:01 am

Are you using an Anisotropic diffusion or something on it?
or some kind of filter? I mean the image has a weird finish to it. The patterns are distorted.

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:02 am

no only to filters are topaz denoise and topaz clean

might be from topaz clean?
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:03 am

ah could be. What setting for topaz denoise are you using?

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:05 am

for denoise

Jpeg - strongest

and clean

Cartooned - edges = 0
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:07 am

K, well I'll leave this to demon, the actual head of the editing department lol, I'm busy typesetting and I'll try my hand at one of those raws. But in the meantime, take a look at the first page Bottom panel. The blacks have that weird pattern on it.

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:13 am

yeah it's because i didn't burn them xD
its 2 am didn't realize they aren't suppose to be like that till after i posted it

here just burned it


but after I burn the blacks it makes the images look pixelated so i guess blur edges will be coming into play :'(
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:24 am

mmm, well I don't usually use denoise for anything as big as that. But yeah, you have to be selective with what you burn. Anyways, good luck with the test demon gives you, I could give you it but I don't think I'm authorized to do that lol.

And don't be like me, GET SOME SLEEP.

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:27 am

Alright thanks and yeah about to go to sleep now
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:46 am

Good luck newbie

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:30 pm

Thanks I'll do a few more now
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:24 pm

Hello there - good luck for the test! You seem more experienced than me though in terms of burning and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:53 pm

Practice is always good. Oh and a heads up, to practice for the test you have to be able to redraw. So either practice redrawing some SFX and text one some pages, or find a split page and stitch it together one way or another.

If demon isn't on in the next little while I'll post up the test for you.

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:15 pm

Alright and yeah I had one page I was drawing on when I get home ill post it
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:26 pm

Sure. We'll just have to wait for Demon then.

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:27 pm

Also, just a quick question, which series are you hoping to work on?

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:17 pm

Hmm... it looks decent
I think u used is too much strength for denoise but yea theres not much we can do with that image
Theres another way I can think of but its too time consuming
Try practicing more on redrawing sfx since its more common in this group

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:19 pm

Well, depending on what series he wants to help out on, we can first give him demon's GTO split page test. Then have him practice on the series' raws.

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:35 pm

@rue So u want to give him the gto split page test?

@smooper Umm... if u havent looked in my tut try this for the test then wait till demon responds

ttp://www.mediafire.com/?v4ceasl65v8oynw (remember to add the "h" in the beginning of link)

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:58 pm

I can do any series doesn't matter to me, but just some precaution don't know how well My redraw will be xD
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:37 am

No worries, as long as you have an eye for what looks decent, you should do fine. It's just about having the patience to get it right.

Piece the pages back together.

Leave a white space in between since there's a part missing (lost while scanning).

Line it up and just redraw it the best you can.

Other than that it's pretty straight forward.
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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:01 pm

well here is the first I can do the second one later

This is just redrawn going to filter it now, but it didn't really seem like it needed it to much

Levels not changed no denoise
http://eih.bz/s0/cleanejdj.jpg

Levels changes plus denoise

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PostSubject: Re: Applying as cleaner / tips   Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:38 pm

The re-drawing at the top is a little smudged, and watch the patterning on the hand. Besides that it's great. I can't admit you to the team, but just wait until either Tran Linh, Demon, Rakan, or Zetto take a look.
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